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MSNBC
Nov 13, 2012 2:30am PST
alleged affair with cia director david petraeus with agents carrying out boxes of material. now the top military commander in afghanistan is being investigated by the pentagon for having inappropriate communications with jill kelley, the woman who first blew the whistle on broadwell's threatening e-mails. oh, boy, here we go. good morning. i'm mika brzezinski, along with joe scarborough, this is "way too early," the show that receives on average about a dozen inappropriate communications from donny deutsch every day. >> every half hour. it's a long story. by the way, shirtless as well. we will talk about that. >> that's on a good day. thanks for being up with us. shoot us an e-mail or tweet u us and let us know why you're awake right now. or do what jill kelley's twin sister does and text the word awake followed by your response to 622639. we'll read the best responses later in the show. >> you kids make sure if your dad sends an e-mail, the shirt stays on. okay? seriously. i'm tired of looking at your dad's bare chest. >>> this will be your cram session for this tuesday, november 1
MSNBC
Nov 10, 2012 4:00am PST
-star general david petraeus abruptly resigned because of an extramarital affair. there's new information this morning. >>> the fiscal cliff. is the u.s. closer to the edge of an economic disaster, or is there room for compromise? and we compare what the president and the gop house leader said. >>> spending spree. new signs today that the economy is on the upswing, and you might be driving it. good morning, everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt," let's get to what's happening right now out there as we have new information today on the shocking resignation of cia director david petraeus. we have now learned the fbi opened an investigation into his biographer, paula broadwell, for allegedly accessing petraeus' e-mails. all this just a week before the general was set to testify before congress on the benghazi attack. joining me now is greg miller, national security correspondent for "the washington post." greg, what a morning. let's get right to it. i'd like to hear the latest that you've learned. >> well, you know, the big question now is what is the reason for this fbi
MSNBC
Nov 13, 2012 7:00am PST
the david petraeus scandal is that he had an affair. everything else about this story is weird, in the washington post. >> i was going to see skyfall this weekend. i'm going to stay at home and read the sunday times. this is totally bizarre. there's so much that we don't know, this fbi investigator. not just four people. there's an fbi and cia, infa infatuated with jill kelley >> let's get this straight. this guy works at the fbi, becomes infatuated. she gets shirtless photos of him allegedly. she goes to him and says i'm getting these weird e-mails. >> he takes this matter into a federal investigation you have to wonder. an fbi investigation if not for this one agent's involvement and especially him going to congress as a whistle blower saying it wasn't being investigated fairly. it's just very bizarre. >> once the fbi got involved, why didn't notify the white house and congress right away? the questions go on and on. >> don't send shirtless picture of yourself, unless they're vacation photos with your family. >> these e-mails with john allen, 20,000 and 30,000 e-mails. as a membe
MSNBC
Nov 11, 2012 12:00pm PST
general david petraeus of the c.i.a. we are hearing new reaction from top officials in washington, d.c. today. nbc news white house correspondent mike viquiera joining me live now. vic, what are we learning today? >> there's a lot of back and forth and a lot of it has to do not only with the shocking incident that came to light late friday afternoon and the fallout on capitol hill. there are some angry members of both the house and senate on the intelligence committee as it relates to the whole benghazi investigation. let's go through the timeline quickly, shall we? >> james clapper, who was nominally the head of, the boss of the collector of central intelligence, until friday, that was david petraeus, learned about this investigation into these emails that were described as harassing emails that were sent from paula broadwell to another woman. he learned about them on election day, on tuesday. on wednesday, he notified the white house. on thursday morning, the national security adviser, tom donovan, made the president aware, general petraeus was here, the former general, retired
MSNBC
Nov 12, 2012 2:30am PST
general david petraeus and his sudden and unexpected resignation as director of the central intelligence agency on friday, citing an extramarital affair. kristen welker reports. >> reporter: according to a senior federal official and close friend of david petraeus, 37-year-old jill kelly complained to fbi agents about being harassed by ball la broadwell, david petraeus' biographer. a senior official says jill kelly is involved in wounded warrior fund raising in tampa. she is married. petraeus' downfall started when kelly complained to the fbi that she was receiving intimidating e-mails from broadwell. law enforcement and multiple u.s. officials tell nbc news those e-mails led to the discovery between others between general petraeus and broadwell and were indicative of an extramarital affair. >> my first reaction was disbelief. >> reporter: steven boylen is petraeus' former spokesperson. he has spoken to him twice this weekend and says his former boss is remorseful. >> he said he had an excellent job. and in his words, he screwed up. >> reporter: the fbi agents interviewed ge
MSNBC
Nov 12, 2012 10:00am PST
from press about this. i called david petraeus. >> some of petraeus' former military aides tell nbc news, they were uncomfortable with biographer paula broadwell's access to the general. >> i thought this was a little bit strange, that he would take someone who's never written a book and allow them such unfettered access and allow them to write what is really the first biography. >>> cliff talks. president obama reaches out to business and labor to rally support for his plan to raise taxes on the rich. are republicans and democrats any closer to making a deal? >> we've had votes in the senate where we've actually gotten rid of tax credits. i think that's a given. and i think that the vast majority of americans agree with that. the question is, how do you do that? >> we need the republicans to do in 2012 what we did in 2010. we hear the mandate, continue to cut spending. but they have to hear the mandate, real revenues, not this kind of stuff like dynamic scoring. >> let me follow up on that. >>> and paying tribute. the president and the first lady honor the fallen heroes at arlingto
MSNBC
Nov 13, 2012 1:00am PST
david petraeus could have been a viable presidential candidate? that was thursday. now it's monday. now there's a lot of new reporting about the scandal which has ended his career and there are a lot of remaining questions. we'll be talking with a reporter who first broke the story. stay tuned. [ male announcer ] febreze. eliminates odors and leaves carpets fresh. ♪ and leaves carpets fresh. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. >>> you are not allowed to cheat on your beloved. if you are married, you are not allowed by law if you are in the military. under article 132, the code of military justice, having an affair is illegal. the maximum punishment is dishonorable discharge and confinement for one year. how is that for a cold shower? you could go to jail for a year for cheating on your husband or wife if you're in the military. even though the ci
MSNBC
Nov 16, 2012 10:00am PST
. >>> right now on "andrea mitchell reports," in from the cold, david petraeus goes to the hill to tell what he knew about the deadly benghazi attack and when he knew it. >> general petraeus's briefing was comprehensive. i think it was important that added to our ability to make judgments about what is clearly a failure of intelligence. >> congress arranged for him to come and leave without having to face the guat lent of cameras in the wake of his resignation over that scandal. >> you can blame it on us. we wanted to spare him that. you know, for any, you know, wait that you did i apologize. there's a lot of suffering going on. >> certain amount of -- sure. all of us in the room have a great regard for him. i've known him nine years now. i actually urged him to run for president a few years ago. >> and democrats use that hearing to rally around susan rice. >> to say that she is unqualified to be secretary of state, i think, is a mistake. and the way it keeps going, it's almost as if -- >> and the middle east on the brink. israel and hamas exchanging fire as casualties mount. amid
MSNBC
Nov 10, 2012 1:00pm PST
david petraeus. u.s. officials now telling nbc news that e-mails between general petraeus and paula broadwell were in fact indicative of an extramarital affair. broadwell the biographer who had writer a book. joining me john harwood, chief washington correspondent for cnbc. good to see you. >> hey, craig. >> what do we know at this point about the fbi investigation? >> well, not all that much. but what we do know is that the investigation began into e-mails that paula broadwell was sending to another woman. so it started away from petraeus, and then led to petraeus because of the nature of his exchanges with paula broadwell. don't know whether that fbi investigation is going to produce a prosecution or anything further. but that's how it appears to have started. it doesn't appear that this has anything to do with other extraneous issues that people have talked about, benghazi or any big geopolitical thing. it seems to be extremely personal. >> what has been the reaction from the white house? and what are you hearing from people on the hill? >> well, i think everybody is disappointed
MSNBC
Nov 9, 2012 12:00pm PST
breaking news we brought you involving general david petraeus the head of the cia saying he's resigning from that position in the wake of an extra-marital affair. that does it. "the cycle" is up next. second hour. >>> this is one of the biggest conundrums facing the gop. what happens when the minority voters have the power of the majority? >> bombshell political news. cia director david petraeus is resigning admitting to an extra-marital affair. andrea mitchell just broke this story, and cease going to provide us with new details ahead. >> all that plus has the obama presidency been good for black people? we have a guest that says not really. buckle up. you're in "the cycle" for friday, november 9th. >>> so the election is behind us, and it's time to confront the fiscal cliff, or as we at "the cycle" call it until we invent poetic phrasing, the gradual fiscal slope. whatever you want to call it, it's staring you in the face. two hours ago the president flanked by middle class taxpayers said this in the white house east room. >> the american people voted for action, not politic
MSNBC
Nov 13, 2012 3:00am PST
general david petraeus scandal. >> well, you know, there's another general. >> now involving the top commander in afghanistan. general john allen is being investigated for alleged inappropriate communications with jill kelley. >> seriously? >> with this woman. >> is there like a club? >> apparently. is he sending topless pictures also? >> she's the woman who reportedly received those threatening e-mails from paula broadwell, david petraeus' biographer. >> still allegedly on that. >> allegedly threatening e-mails. >> with whom petraeus is said to have an affair. general allen took over command from general petraeus after petraeus was tapped for the cia. now, officials are reviewing up to 30,000 pages of communications. >> stop right now. i'm not -- okay. >> i don't know math -- >> 30,000. >> it was a very big font. >> it might be times roman 18. hold on a second. >> almost as big as the font of this headline. >> do we have that number right? >> hold on a second, i'm not really good at math. >> my eyes are bad. >> i think i've proven this, not good at math. let's talk to a guy who went
MSNBC
Nov 12, 2012 6:00pm PST
. >>> do you remember when general david petraeus could have been a viable presidential candidate? that was thursday. now it's monday. now there's a lot of new reporting about the scandal which has ended his career and there are a lot of remaining questions. we'll be talking with a reporter who first broke the story. stay tuned. try running four.ning a restaurant is hard, fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it. make your mark with ink from chase. customer erin swenson bought so, i'm happy. today. sales go up... i'm happy. it went out today... i'm happy. what if she's not home? (together) she won't be happy. use ups! she can get a text alert, reroute... even reschedule her package. it's ups my choice. are you happy? i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. happy. happy. happy. happy. (together) happy. i love logistics. >>> you are not allowed to cheat on your beloved. i
MSNBC
Nov 12, 2012 9:00pm PST
. >>> do you remember when general david petraeus could have been a viable presidential candidate? that was thursday. now it's monday. now there's a lot of new reporting about the scandal which has ended his career and there are a lot of remaining questions. we'll be talking with a reporter who first broke the story. stay tuned. the truth about mascara is... it clumps. introducing a revolutionary new mascara. clump crusher...crusher. 200% more volume. zero clumps. new clump crusher from easy, breezy, beautiful covergirl. but they haven't experienced extra strength bayer advanced aspirin. in fact, in a recent survey, 95% of people who tried it agreed that it relieved their headache fast. visit fastreliefchallenge.com today for a special trial offer. ♪ in a world where ♪ there is so much to see ♪ there's still no other place ♪ that i would rather, rather ♪ rather, rather be ♪ [ male announcer ] dip into sabra hummus and discover a little taste of the world. enjoy sabra dips. adventure awaits. if your tv were a slow running teenager, zeebox would be a horror movie monster. together
MSNBC
Nov 11, 2012 4:00am PST
david petraeus late today resigned over what he described as an extramarital affair. this is "hardball," the place for politics. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedhealthcare. begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and maybe have to take up to four in a day. or take aleve, which can relieve pain all day with just two pills. good eye. [ male announcer ] jill and her mouth have lived a great life. but she has some dental issues she's not happy about. so i introduced jill to crest pro-health for life. selected for people over 50. pro-health for life is a toothpaste that defends against tender, inflamed gums, sensitivity and weak enamel. conditions people over 50 experience. cres
MSNBC
Nov 10, 2012 2:00am PST
sides. a lot of ticktock. the cia chief, david petraeus resigns he said because of an extramarital affair. we'll try to get to the bottom of that watercooler story tonight. this is "hardball," the place for politics. crisp. it's kind of like drinking a food that's a drink, or a drink that's a food, woooooh! [ male announcer ] taste it and describe the indescribable. could've had a v8. it's not for colds, it's not for pain, it's just for sleep. because sleep is a beautiful thing. ♪ zzzquil, the non-habit forming sleep-aid from the makers of nyquil. >>> welcome back to "hardball." the republicans soul searching well under way after mitt romney's tuesday night. the democratic gains in the senate and house while the republicans are facing the reality of moving further and further away from the right wing ideology. if the republican party wants to survive, then the party that questions evolution is going to have to evolve and quickly. but will they double down on the message just by romney from the guy losing because he was flawed. steve, the republican from cleveland. and david autho
MSNBC
Nov 12, 2012 2:00am PST
general director david petraeus. >>> president obama is taking his fiscal argument to a higher power than congress. >>> fbi investigators want to know what caused a massive explosion that killed two and damaged over 30 homes, while leveling some completely. good morning to you. i'm veronica de la cruz. government officials say after admitting that an extramarital affair with his biographer paula broadwell. a woman received harassing e-mails from broadwell. and the complaint led to the investigation that uncovered the affair. there's a growing chorus of questions from lawmakers as to when exactly the affair came to light, who in washington knew about it and when they were told. >> reporter: according to a senior federal official and close friend of david petraeus, 37-year-old jill kelly complained to fbi agents about being harassed by paula broadwell, david petraeus' biographer. a senior military official says jill kelly is involved in wounded warrior fund raising in tampa, is married. she and her husband are close petraeus family friends. officials say petraeus' downfall started when
MSNBC
Nov 10, 2012 11:00am PST
surprising resignation of cia general david petraeus. the report is that indicative of an extramarital affair, paula broadwell has not responded to our repeated request for comment. kristen welcker is joining me now. what can you tell us about this breaking story? >> good afternoon, craig. the fbi has opened up an investigation into paula broadwell to see if she had improper access to general petraeus' e-mails or computer files. david petraeus is not under investigation himself and they do not expect their inquiry will result in criminal charges. we have, of course, reached out to paula broadwell. we have not heard back from her. she wrote a biography called "all in." some people describe it as glowing. it's certainly coming under a lot of scrutiny right now. just to give you a lick tick tock of how this unfolded. the white house learned about this on wednesday. general petraeus requested to meet with president obama on thursday. he explained the situation to the president, offered the resignation and president obama said give me 24 hours to think about it and then on friday president
MSNBC
Nov 12, 2012 7:00am PST
another woman, jill kell kelley, described as a friend of david petraeus, told another person at the fbi that she's getting threatening e-mail. should the fbi have alerted someone in congress when they started this investigation? >> i don't even know what those protocols are. i would point out that i think that the oversight mechanism that congress, over all issues of national defense and security, has been broken for some time. i was speaking with a senator who was part of the class fight breakdowns of the post-benghazi debacle. and he described those discussions as being the most useless he's ever heard. so there isn't a lot of information sharing over congress. and i think congress also hasn't been doing its job in constructing proper oversight into what's happening overseas and especially with our intelligence services. i would chalk it up probably as part of that kind of bad information loop. >> i guess the point that dianne feinstein was trying to make is you have an issue that could be one of national security. we haven't really heard either side criticizing so much the affair
MSNBC
Nov 12, 2012 1:00pm PST
the last of david petraeus. >> then there's the drama already on capitol hill over how to avoid plunging over the so-called fiscal cliff. >> four more years of gridlock! >> i'm open to new ideas. but i refuse to accept any approach that isn't balanced. >> i don't want to box myself in and i don't want to box anyone else in. >> darn it all to heck. >> there was no way the republicans should have lost. >> let's have a serious debate. >> the president was committed -- elected on the basis that he was not romney and romney was a poopy head. >> they're going to defend a bunch of millionaires? >> i was long last week as was virtually every major republican analyst. >> bounce with me. come on, bounce with me a little bit. come on. ♪ >>> bounce with me, indeed. it's the first week after the election, and the big story was supposed to be the looming fiscal cliff. but there's nothing like a high profile sex scandal to distract washington. with headlines dominated today by the abrupt resignation of cia director david petraeus over an extramarital affair. some lawmakers are now calling fo
MSNBC
Nov 10, 2012 12:00pm PST
the biography is written, what will be the leg legacy from david petraeus? that's ahead. plus, soul searching and lessons learned. we'll talk 20/20 hindsight with the movers of the republican party. that's next on msnbc. ♪ [ male announcer ] the way it moves. the way it cleans. everything about the oral-b power brush is simply revolutionary. oral-b power brushes oscillate, rotate and even pulsate to gently loosen and break up that sticky plaque with more brush movements than manual brushes and even up to 50% more than leading sonic technology brushes for a superior clean. oral-b power brushes. go to oralb.com for the latest offers. oral-b power brushes. music is a universal language. but when i was in an accident... i was worried the health care system spoke a language all its own with unitedhealthcare, i got help that fit my life. information on my phone. connection to doctors who get where i'm from. and tools to estimate what my care may cost. so i never missed a beat. we're more than 78,000 people looking out for more than 70 million americans. that's health in numbers. unitedh
MSNBC
Nov 15, 2012 2:00am PST
criticism from republicans. all that while embattled former cia director david petraeus prepares to testify on capitol hill today. and breaking news from the middle east. as rockets are fired between the israelis and palestinians, this morning three israelis are killed. we'll have a live report coming up. first, good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. today, one scandal will give way to another in washington. david petraeus expected to testify in a closed door senate intelligence committee hearing. general petraeus is not expected to talk about his personal indiscretions that ended his cia career last week. instead, he'll be discussing details in the deadly attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi, libya that resulted in the death of christopher stevens and three others. >>> also, the controversy over u.n. ambassador susan rice calling the assault spontaneous in september reached a boiling point. yesterday president obama and his first news conference since re-election exploded at republicans finger pointing over rice. >> if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go af
MSNBC
Nov 13, 2012 2:00am PST
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"first look" is up next. >>> breaking news on "first look," new brombshells in the general petraeus scandal. now general john allen is connected to jill kelley, details ahead. plus a late-night search by the fbi of paula broadwell's home in charlotte. all of this as we face wide-swinging weather patterns that seem to defy anything we've seen before. breaking new s overnight in the scandal that brought down general petraeus. now the man who oversaw general petraeus in the afghanistan war is under investigation himself. general john allen is accused of "inappropriate communications" with jill kelley, the florida woman whose complaints of e-mail harassment started the initial investigation. a senior defense official traveling with panetta says 20,000 to 30,000 pages of epail and other documents from general allen's communications with kelley are under review. the official says general allen disputes engaging in any wrong doing in the matter. the fbi referred the matter to the department of defense for investigation on sunday. early this morning secretary panetta directed that the defense department's inspector general investigate. last night fbi agents went to the home of biographer paula broadwell, the woman government officials say petraeus acknowledged having an affair with. a senior law enforcement official tells nbc news the search was consensual and not a raid. the "washington post" reports that petraeus had hoped to survive the scandal but was told to resign by national intelligence director james clapper on election day. it was nbc's andrea mitchell who broke the petraeus story and she has more. >> mrs. kelley, how are you doing? >> reporter: we learned what was in the harassing e-mails to jilt kelley, the family friend who volunteer work for military families at mcdill air force base brought her and her husband into contact with the petraeus and other generals. it was her call for help to the fbi that kicked off the investigation. >> the e-mails accuse kelley with improper socializing with generals in tampa, but also has references of comings and goings of general petraeus. >> kelley's brother says his sister was a victim. >> my sister, number one, is a mother. she has three kids. extremely dedicated to those kids. number two, she's a wife and extremely dedicated to her husband. >> reporter: who would have access to petraeus' classified schedule? the computer trail led to petraeus' biographer paula broadwell. a military reservist and fellow west point graduate, broadwell attended the general's confirmation hearing for the cia. a few months later their affair began and lasted for ten months. broadwell often talked about her security clearance and recently about the bengahzi attack. seeming to cite inside information. >> i don't know if you heard this, but the cia took a couple of libyan prisoners in. >> reporter: do you have any information about that? >> i talked to my staff. they said this is not true. wo we'll see. this is something we need to check out. >> reporter: feinstein who will chair a senate inquiry into bengahzi this week wants to know what petraeus learned on a secret trip to debrief the cia station chief there shortly before he resigned. >> we have asked to see the trip report. one person said he has read it, then we try to get it and they tell us it hasn't been done. that's unacceptable. we're entitled to this trip report. if we have to go to the floor of the senate on a subpoena, we will do that. >> reporter: feinstein and michael rogers also want to know why the president didn't learn about the fbi investigation until last thursday and why they didn't learn until a day later, the day petraeus resigned. but eric canter learned tof it two weeks earlier. >>> washington lawmakers will be returning to the capitol this morning and will be buzzing about the petraeus and allen investigations. but they're also going to be faced with a much larger problem. we're talking about the trillion dollar fiscal cliff, which if not dealt with before the end of the year will impact everyone in america. so today president obama will be meeting with key labor and progressive leaders at the white house for the first in a series of high-profile economic talks he will be hosting this week. >>> to other news, from hurricane sandy and last week's nor'easter to spring-like weather in the east and mercury-plunging in the west, many are asking what is with the crazy extremes in weather? anne thompson has that story. >> reporter: america has a case of weather whiplash. >> 60 degrees as our high on friday. 28 degrees as our high on saturday. >> reporter: this weekend the west went from summer to winter overnight. >> that's winter. >> it's winter. >> reporter: the northeast basks in spring-like temperatures, still recovering from superstorm sandy and the nor'easter that covered her debris in a record snowfall. this year alone the nations endured a withering drought, the largest wildfires in history and the warmest month on record. in 2011 there were 14 extreme weather events, each doing more than a billion dollars in damage. now some politicians are connecting the dots, blaming the gases that come from burning coal, oil and gas for changing the climate. >> climate change, extreme weather, it is undeniable. >> reporter: when it comes to one specific event like sandy, more scientists are more cautious. >> we know global warming shifts the odds of certain extreme events, we can't say sandy was definitely caused by global warming, but we can say it shifted the odds in its favor. >> reporter: what they are certain about is that sea levels are rising, about a foot in the new york area since 1900. making sandy's storm surge that much more destructive, forever altering the coastline. extreme weather with extreme price tags becoming more commonplace. anne thompson, nbc news new york. >>> now we turn to meteorologist bill karins. it's so true, i stepped out on sunday, it felt like may. >> a little bit of whiplash. >> you never know what you are going to get. >> it's the frequency that is the alarming part. we get the wild weather turns, but how often is the question. the last thing we need is another east coast wind or wave event. it is possible. almost looking likely at this point. this is going about six to seven days from now. it's in advance. hopefully things will change. this is how the setup looks now. a big area of high pressure will settle over quebec. at the same time a weak coastal storm looks to be coming off the carolinas. it will stall off the coast sometime sunday and linger to tuesday. the pressure gradient between these two will cause it to be windy, raw and rainy and pile up the water and waves along those areas that were effected by sandy. at this time, six to seven days in advance, my concerns are it's effecting the areas still recovering. minor coastal flooding looks possible. and minor beach erosion, too, if these waves and the high tide cycles last for two or three days. that's something to watch in the days ahead. this morning, not a lot going on. a light rain. bring the umbrella with you. d.c. up to new york, temperatures will plunge as we go throughout the day. notice how much colder it is by pittsburgh. all the cold air in the middle of the country will sweep to the east. the middle of the country will recover after a cold start, and for the east coast, rain this morning this afternoon you'll be dry and fine. >>> coming up, the u.s. is poised to become the world's biggest oil producer and a new health warning for women. >>> and fighting back against the donald. a petition with almost 400,000 signatures pushing macy's to drop donald trump. ♪ if it wasn't for you ♪ don't know what i'd do ♪ i'd have nothing to prove ♪ i'd have nothing to lose ♪ i'd be all lost at sea ♪ with no reason to make it through ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing the celebration diamond collection. ♪ if it wasn't for you [ male announcer ] diamonds so expertly cut, we guarantee them for life. zales is the diamond store. let love shine. time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. 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[ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? >>> the director of the cia general david petraeus has resigned after it came out he had an affair with the woman who wrote his biography. getting caught is bitter sweet by petraeus because he was like, damn that was good investigative work. got to give it up. big entertainment news "sky fall" came in number one this weekend with $88 million. yeah. this is about a spy who fights terrorists and sleeps with a lot of women. critics are calling it well-made, david petraeus is calling it relatable. >> you going to go there, bill? didn't think so. >>> monday marked the beginning of the end for twilight. the breaking dawn part ii premiere in los angeles, so pattinson was asked if he would ever play a vampire again, he said definitely but the script would have to be good. >>> victoria's secret has been under fire for using a native american style headdress on one of their models. victoria secret has apologized. they will cut the controversial outfit from their show. the show will still go on, bill, don't worry. >>> are you hearing a dull roar? don't adjust your television. there's an enormous crowd gathered outside 30 rock right now for the british boy band one direction. they have been lined up since sunday for the band's performance on the "today" show this morning. >> between twilight and one direction -- >> your head is spinning. >>> today's date may ring a bell for some viewers. take a listen. >> on november 13, felix undwas asked to remove himself from his place of residence. >> once a week he was kicked out of the house and forced to live with oscar madison, an odd couple if i ever had seen one. kind of like us on "first look." though i don't know which one i would say is neat or messy -- >> i'm not messy, but i believe you have little ocd problems. >> i think you have learned quickly that's absolutely the case. things are lined up perfectly. >> "way too early" is next. > >>> the fall from grace of one of the most respected military men of this generation. >> please don't be captain america. please don't be captain american. >> one of the most respecteded military men. four-star general david petraeus stepped down on friday after he admitteded to an extramarital affair. >> it was captain america! >> late last night the fbi drops by the home of paula
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minneapolis. breaking news, cia director david petraeus is out and rich people in this country better get their wallets out. >> american people voted for action. >> the president drops the hammer. no deal unless the rich start paying their fair share. we'll bring you the latest on today's major power play by president obama. >> it's time to get back to work. >> hatred and racism explode following the president's reelection. eric dyson puts it all into perspecti perspective. >>> and bill clinton may have saved president obama's second term. darrell hammen tells us how he did it. >> he's the only democratic nominee for president. >> good to have you with us. thanks for watching. president obama stepped out to talk about the economy today. he reminded america that there was an election on tuesday and the people have spoken. the president spoke from the east room of the white house surrounded by middle class americans. he's ready to lead on fiscal challenges facing this country. >> the american people voted for action. not politics as usual. you elected us to focus on your jobs, not ours.
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affair. and we use the word "alleged" very loosely there with cia director david petraeus which led to the resignation from his post on friday. good morning. with us on set, msnbc political analyst, john heilemann. the president on the council on foreign relations, richard haass and author of "foreign policy begins at home: the case for putting america's house in order." and from washington, we've got nbc chief foreign affairs correspondent, andrea mitchell. the great john heilemann also here. >> we also have willie geist. >> the great willie geist also here. >> we did your show. it's a cute little show. >> it's fun, right? it's a good show. >> how's your new life? >> it started nine seconds ago, so i'll let you know. >> your swan song on friday being called by some the greatest swan song since the beatles recording abbey road. >> the "m.a.s.h." finale, i got a lot of that. >> so what's the chances that this paula broadwell, is that her name? >> yes. >> paula broadwell is on "morning joe" the one day that i'm off over the last three years. i missed her. >> crapshoot. >> she was impr
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, who in the game is named david petraeus. before this week it probably was not a bad bet in video game land that in 13 years a then 73-year-old david petraeus might be defense secretary, but now today that is a rather bad bet. it means that this video game someday in the future will be unearthed with the same glee and disbelief that accompanied the discovery of the old dating game footage of a future michigan governor, jennifer granholm. president obama was sworn into office as president. at the end of january 2009, just over 100 days after that, less than four months after he was sworn in, the new president did something absolutely remarkable. something that had not been done in more than 50 years. the new president fired the man in charge of the war. >> president obama has said that the war in afghanistan is one the u.s. must win. senior officials here at the pentagon have decided it will take new military leadership to do it. defense secretary robert gates mcmckiernan in afghanistan last week to break the bad news, but waited until today to announce it. >> i asked for the resignatio
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if you last spent significant time doing video games when they looked like this. it's disorienting to know that video games now look like this, which is to say it is really hard to tell that they are not movies. ultimately the basic principles are the same in terms of video games then and now. most of them are fighting and shooting games, and for mof them if you're not good at controlling your thumbs, you're not a world champion at the game. the increasing over the top visual realism of modern video games is matched by an empt of video game makers to make the wartime combat featured in popular games really authentic as combat. this game is called "medal of honor war fighter. "it was so authentic seven navy s.e.a.l.s were reprimanded for giving classified information about navy s.e.a.l. stuff to the makers of this game, who presumably used it to make it as authentic as possible. a new combat realism game that came out today, they were advised by oliver north. remember him? he was indicted for 16 felonies in the iran contra panel. he was a conservative movement hero. oliver north not only consulted on this new game that comes out today, he appears as a character in the game. look at his hips. in real life i don't think his hips swing like a hula dancer like they do in the game. i don't know. i've never seen him walk. when the character oliver north talks in "call of duty black ops 2," it's his real voice. here's the thing about this game that came out today and today's news, and i think a thing i guess nobody saw coming before it happened. the game comes out today and set 13 years in the future. it's set in the year 2025. although the game is supposed to be fiction, the cameo from oliver north is not the only way to make it seem connected to real people in the real world. there's an important scene in the game that takes place on a u.s. aircraft carrier, and that's named the "uss barack obama." and the u.s. defense secretary meeting on the flight deck with the commander of the u.s. aircraft carrier obama is the american defense secretary, who in the game is named david petraeus. before this week it probably was not a bad bet in video game land that in 13 years a then 73-year-old david petraeus might be defense secretary, but now today that is a rather bad bet. it means that this video game someday in the future will be unearthed with the same glee and disbelief that accompanied the discovery of the old dating game footage of a future michigan governor, jennifer granholm. president obama was sworn into office as president. at the end of january 2009, just over 100 days after that, less than four months after he was sworn in, the new president did something absolutely remarkable. something that had not been done in more than 50 years. the new president fired the man in charge of the war. >> president obama has said that the war in afghanistan is one the u.s. must win. senior officials here at the pentagon have decided it will take new military leadership to do it. defense secretary robert gates mcmckiernan in afghanistan last week to break the bad news, but waited until today to announce it. >> i asked for the resignation of general david mckiernan. >> gates and obama relieving him of command. when they did that and relieved him of command as the lead american commander of the war in afghanistan, that was the first time since general truman fired douglas mcarthur during the korean war that a president relieved a four-star commanding general in the middle of the war he was leading. when president obama did that it was the first time in 58 years anything like that happened in this country, and then he did it again. after he fired the man who was running the war when he took office, the replacement general that president obama sent to lead the war thereafter was this guy, general stanley mcchrystal. there was a immediate contracult around him as around david petraeus. a year after general mcchrisle tal took command, he, too, was fired by president obama. he was fired for in effect insubordination after a magazine article portrayed general mccrystal about it. michael hastings story was told in "rolling stone" and told in epic effect in his book called "the operators." after president obama's first commander of the afghanistan war was fired, after his second commander was fired, president obama turned to the most high profile military leader in the country, general david petraeus, to become his third afghanistan war commanding general. that tenure in afghanistan lasted a year. as the president surged tens of thousands of more americans into that country, ultimately tripling the number of troops who were there when he first took office, that year at the front ended for general petraeus when he came back to washington to become head of the cia. a job from which he unexpectedly and suddenly resigned last week saying he had been having an extra-marital affair. meanwhile, yet another confirmation hearing is due this week for yet another new commander of the war in afghanistan. marine general joe dunford will take on over the reins from john allen. he took over from general petraeus. while general allen is still running the war over there, he too is caught up in the petraeus affair scandal. his confirmation hearings for his next big job, nato supreme commander, those hearings are on hold while the matter of general allen's only personal relationship with one of the women involved can be sorted out. general allen is in washington for his own now postponed confirmation hearings for his next job and for his own now canceled role in the confirmation hearings for his successor to lead the afghanistan war. in washington he is denying any suggestion that he had an inappropriate relationship with anyone, and the defense department and white house are standing by him while the investigation continues. and while he smits his plans to the president now for which americans are going to remain in afghanistan after the official u.s. troop withdrawal from that war, which is not this year, and it's not next year. that doesn't happen anytime during the following yearle until the very end of the year after that. he submitted plans already for american troop presence in afghanistan starting in the year 2015. after president obama signs off on that post-2015 plan in the next couple of weeks, the white house is due to start their plans for how many americans have to stay in the war this year, 2012, and next year, 2013 and the year after that, 2014. those recommendations will come from general allen, who is the tenth u.s. general to lead the u.s. war in afghanistan. before this latest hubalu, he is going to be replaced with planning well under way for year '13 and '14 and something different they won't call a war but has americans there in year as 15 going on indefinitely. john allen successor to the disgraced petraeus and mcchrystal and fired mckiernan. he remains in command in afghanistan where americans are risking their necks for a country that has not in a decade paid as much attention to the war as it is paying to the sexual misconduct and disgrace of one of the many, many, many, many, many, many men who have led it. joins us is frank rich, noshz magazine's writer at large. >> great to be here, rachel. >> we have went through a presidential election in which we pretty much did not talk about afghanistan. there's new interest in our military commanders there because of the details surrounding general petraeus and these e-mails from general allen. is this inevitable, and can this be a way to turn country's attention back to the war? >> well, it would seem if you turned this long-running war, which i think is really off the public radar screen. it wasn't only not discussed in the campaign, in the debates, it didn't register in the polls like we're not at war, except for the people actually fighting it. to turn it into the "real housewives of tampa" may be the way to sell it or get people interested. i suspect the moment this is resolved in way or another, people will go back to ignoring the war. >> is there any way -- i guess the parallel question other than public interest is political interest. you have seen in congress right now, including some of the republicans returning to congress in the house they still control, a real softening of attitudes on the issue of how long the afghanistan war should go on. i feel like if there's anybody who wants to push on this door, they will find it's an open door and there could be political support for leaving sooner than we're planning. >> i think so. i thought it was true before the election. i felt romney was giving signals and even at times almost stating that it's good we're getting out. that shows that kind of softness. who really in this country is pushing for extending it? lindsey graham, john mccain and the departing joe lieberman. i don't know of any other voices in the national political scene who are saying we can't leave. we have to do as long as it takes and stay there forever. there's no public support for it. >> because of this scandal, i just -- i mean, one of the things that you hear from veterans groups, that people outside the military i don't think seem all that comfortable talking about is the personal toll of these long deployments over multiple years on people's personal lives. young veterans bemoan the rate of divorce among veterans. how difficult it is to sustain a family and relationships. i don't know why we think it's easier for top commanders than your average infantry man trying to hold his family together. is this potentially -- we tend to defer to the military's own judgment on these things. we ask the commanders on the ground for their own opinion, but is this not another occasion for civilians to say, this is done in our name. the military isn't fighting this war because it wants to, because they want us to be fighting this. could this be an occasion for us to say we're asking the military to do too much for too long now. this is not personally sustainable? >> i'd like to believe it's the case. we went through the stop leave and multiple tours of duty during iraq, which was so many strains, mental, physical, marital on the people fighting and their families. now this is at a high level, possibly a dramatization of the strains even in the privileged part of the military complex. i just -- the public is not engaged. it's 1% of the country that's fighting this war. most people sadly don't know people involved in the effort. so it's out of sight, out of mind. this will maybe cast a spotlight, but will it be forgotten as we return to the fiscal cliff or whatever we return to next month or next week. >> in terms of the petraeus affair as it were itself, the story is definitely getting more sorted as days go by, which i think is why it continues to hold public attention so far. as it is getting more sorted, though, it is just getting more personal, or do you actually see it getting more political now? is this at this point a scandal or a tragedy? >> i think it's just a tragedy. i mean, based on what we know now, it seems to be there's some things about it that are scandalous. i don't understand how a general could be involved in 20 or 30,000 pages worth of e-mail, like allen, how is he doing his job? >> very short -- >> very short but 20,000 to 30,000. my god. i do think that it's really more -- so far it's the level of personal tragedy, and i think everyone understands that. there was an attempt by republicans to try to connect it to benghazi, to aaccuse obama of a coverup before the election as if it had been known before the election it would have had any effect. it wouldn't have. i think the political efforts are now over or seem to be subsiding, and so we're left with what this country really loves, a good, sorted sex scandal. >> on the issue of benghazi, the president is trying to put together his second term cabinet. there's been a lot of talk where john kerry is going to go. whether he would be secretary of state or defense. there's this question about whether susan rice might be elevated to secretary of state. the republicans, of course, tried to turn it into a national scandal that she commented after the benghazi attack and said that at that point best intelligence indicated it might have something to do with that protest about the film. the intelligence community later changed its mind saying they don't think it's related. the republicans have tried to hang her out to dry on that subject. do you think that's over, or if she gets the secretary of state nomination, it's a real hurdle for her? >> i don't think it's a real hurdle if she gets it. frankly, i don't think republicans want to go up against a very distinguished african-american woman in public life with no grounds whatsoever. getting back to kerry, kerry, who actually did serve, could be and has been in the past a great voice for what you're talking about for taking care of our military, taking care of our veterans, dealing with these issues in whatever big post he ends up in, he certainly did it as a senator, that would be a big plus. >> connecting with the country's concerns to the war that we're still fighting that we prefer not to talk about. it's a big job, but somebody has to do it. thanks for being here. appreciate it. >> news ahead on liberal seeming things that happen in utah. also, election results still due to come in. next, president obama's mini summit today with a who's who of liberal america on purpose. that's next. >>> do you plan to stay on as the leader and run again? >> let's see. what time is it now? 2:00 on tuesday. i'll see you right here 10:00 tomorrow morning. while i love you all very dearly, i thought maybe i would talk to my own caucus before i shared that information with you. >> that's the top democrat in the house, nancy pelosi responding to a question this afternoon about her future in the leadership. 10:00 tomorrow morning. we have to wait until then for her to share any information about whether she intends to try to stay on as leader of the democrats in congress. that was 2:00 this afternoon she said it. then here's the press release mrs. pelosi's office sent out later in the afternoon about that 10:00 a.m. press conference tomorrow morning. they say the topic is to highlight the historic number of women elected as parts of the house democratic caucus. does that sound like the kind of event you'd hold if you were stepping down from the leadership, especially if you like nancy pelosi was an intee gral part of women in the congress? we'll have more on her future and the many, many surprises. the many awkward surprises, aa freshman orientation week on capitol hill is just ahead. stay with us. >>> today was orientation on capitol hill. with some races still undecided in this year's election, orientation this year is even more awkward than usual. one of this year's still to be decided races is a house contest in california between dan lundgren and his democratic challenge. mr. barra leads in the vote count but it hasn't been officially declared. there was mr. berra at orientation, and who runs the orientation for new members of congress? dan lundgren, his opponent, the committee that dan lundgren chairs runs of orientation for new members of congress. with that particular race still undecided but with dan behind in the case, dan lundgren had the job today of training the guy who looks like he's about to oust him from congress. awkward. but not the most awkward thing in congress today. that prize today was won in the senate, and specifically by republican leader there mitch mcconnell who really wanted today's photo-op with the three new republican senators in washington to be a he simple smile and shoot affair. it was not. >> every two years it's been the week na new senators come to town for orientation. i'm pleased to be here with our new members who have a couple of days here to get used to the way it gets started in the united states senate. >> there are only three new republican members of the u.s. senate this year. while there are eight new democrats and a new independent. so that alone is an uncomfortable position for mitch mcconnell and the three new senators forced into this horribly awkward photo-op today including one whose race is not necessarily settled in arizona where they are still counting. so it was awkward enough when mr. mcconnell thought reporters would stand there silently and take their picture after he gave those brief remarks. it got much, much worse when the reporters decided not to just take pictures. they were going to speak. >> the election is behind us, and we're ready to get started. thank you, everyone. >> senator mcconnell, are you comfortable with the investigation that is taking place in the petraeus affair and do you believe that the fbi should have notified congress earlier about this matter? >> thank you everybody. thank you, everybody. >> senator elect flake, do you agree with senator mcconnell? >> did you get your official result, senator flake? is it senator flake? >> we're comfortable. >> are you going to compromise. >> come on guys, go. come on. >> can you not push me and push everybody else. >> yup, push it along. >> push it along. nothing to see here, even though we invited you here to watch us sit here in these chairs. we didn't want you to speak to us once we stopped talking. meanwhile, over at the white house the president spent his congressional orientation day meeting with liberals, true blue liberals, lots of them. unlike most of my adult life, the liberals weren't at the white house to protest outside. no, they were there to talk with the president of the united states at his invitation. several different labor unions, the liberal think tank and the center for budget and policy priorities and the common purpose project and the national committee to preserve social security and medicare, move on, the center for community change was today's meeting at the white house. tomorrow the president is going to host a big meeting for business leaders. he's also holding a press conference. on friday the president will meet with congressional leaders including, as we mentioned, the democratic leader in the houmt nancy pelosi, about whom there's much speculation recently and who is due to announce tomorrow morning whether she will stay on aas leader of the democrats in the house. i do not play poker. i am not a betting person, and i am bad at predictions. my ge is it's a cold day in hell when nancy pelosi steps aside from a job that remains to be done. we'll see tomorrow. >>> so you know this whole general petraeus sex scandal people and how people in washington are upset they found out about it when you and i found out about it, you know how they're are now conspiracy theories about why the fbi didn't tip off more people sooner than they did? what if there was actually a good reason for that? a whole bunch of good reasons. i believe in keeping the tinfoil hat handy at all times. you never know when you need it, but this story ought to be enough to keep everybody riveted without making up stuff about it. that's coming up with help from the ghost of j. edgar hoover. 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though one of the two mezcals apparently has illegal as its brand name. this is all you can legally get as far as it goes mezcal in the state of utah. however, if you have a kind of rum or a kind of mezcal or even a label of wine that you would like to be able to get but that isn't on the utah state list, you can request it from the state government. if you click on the little shopping cart there on the website, it takes you to the special orders page where you can ask your state government to please buy you some better mezcal or whatever. you have to ask them, though. they do try to be helpful. they're a whole section of the state government's website about how to best pair the wines of the state of utah with various types of food. this is not like a tourism thing. this is not an export things or wines made in utah. it's wines from everywhere, but the state has to get them for you. used to be a state employee in utah whose job it was to taste every alcohol and wine and whiskey the state was considering allowing into the state to be sold. i don't know if there is someone with that job, but it wasn't that long ago. that's because in utah the department of alcoholic beverage control is not only tasked with enforcing liquor laws in the state giving out licenses, they choose which wines and beers and spirits the citizens of the state of utah may purchase. the state government on behalf of its residents tastes wine and decides if it is good enough for utah. whether did the states deal with booze is really weird. i always thought it's because we had a long, strange, national failed experiment called prohibition that was not that long ago. when prohibition ended in 1933, americans could legally buy and sell and drink booze for the first time in 13 years. people were obviously psyched when prohibition ended, but there was a the lot of policy to figure out how to sell and regulate alcohol. would cities do it? would states do it? the federal government? do you need a license to sell alcohol? how old to drink alcohol? states came up with their own answers to those questions, and the laws between the states all these decades later are diverse. today for example 18 states are called control states, which means they control the wholesale and retail sales of alcohol. that's why in a controlled state like utah, the state chooses your wines for you and hopefully we will help you pair them with dinner. maryland is not a control state, but there's one county in the state, montgomery county that does it that way, too. le a little taste of utah in the middle of maryland. it isn't just between places that have state stores for booze and states that don't have state stores. i mean, in some places you can buy beer or wine or hard stuff at the rite aid or gas station. in some places you can buy beer at a gags station, but spirits come from a state store that looks like a prison. there are all the different levels of control on the sale and distribution of booze up to and including the state becoming the retailer that sells you the booze. now that is about to happen with pot, too, sort of. three states had wide-ranging new rules about pot the on the ballot this year. not about medical marijuana but recreationalal use of marijuana. it passed in washington and colorado but not in oregon, which is oregon is a more blue state than colorado is. oregon was voting on something slightly different. the model of the state-run store that sells all the liquor in the state than utah, that is what oregon was considering for pot. the state would regulate people growing and processing pot and getting it ready to be sold. in oregon the proposal was that the state itself would buy all of the pot in the state and then sell that pot to oregon residents, presumably at stores that look like prisons like with whiskey in north carolina and utah and a bunch of other states, too. that model of how to deal with legalized pot is what was rejected in oregon this year, but what was accepted in colorado and washington state, on the other hand, was a proposal that those states should license and regulate people to grow marijuana. license and regulate people to process it and prepare it for sale. then in colorado and washington what they said is that the state should also regulate normal businesses, private for profit stores to operate like regular liquor stores, like regular businesses selling this new illegal product regulated and taxed by the state. that is the proposal that won by ten points in colorado and by 12 points in washington state. according to these ballot initiatives, it will not be illegal to buy or possess less than an ounce poft over the age of 21. on paper it's that pot is regulated much like alcohol is, but the really important difference is, the really important difference is that according to the federal government and therefore for the whole united states of america everywhere according to the federal government it's illegal to buy or sell pot. that's just as much the law as these new state laws that say the opposite. what's going to happen here? is it legal or not? is it going to be legal to buy and sell and smoke pot in colorado and washington, or is it not? we are not the only ones asking this question. the people in charge are asking the question, too. the governor of colorado has indicated he also has no idea how this is going to work. on election day he put out a state reminding coloradans under federal law pot is still ellegal, so they should hold off on the cheat toes and goldfish for the time being. they met with the deputy attorney general to figure out how this will be handles. meanwhile prosecutors in the two largest counties in washington state have taken matters into their own hands. they have dropped hundreds of cases of pot possession in that state. hundreds of criminal cases have been dropped. the king county prosecutor says there's no point in continuing to seek criminal penalties for conduct that will be legal next month. true enough. however, in the same state out in the eastern part of washington state and spokane county, prosecutors there say they plan to keep arresting people just as they do now for pot related offenses. their argument in spokane is the only legal way to get pot in washington even after this new state law goes into effect will be to buy that pot from a state regulated pot store. and those state regulated pot stores don't exist yet, but they might soon be created if the federal government allows that to happen and nobody knows that the government will allow them to happen. this is policy soup, and i don't mean this as a munchies joke. this doesn't make any sense yet. joining us for the interview is neil frank linn. he served in law enforcement for 30 years as a narcotics officer with the maryland state police and is commander of training for the baltimore police department. thanks for joining us. >> thanks for having me. what a great lead-in. >> you are familiar with the laws than i am. did i get the contours of that right? do you feel like the comparison with alcohol prohibition is appropriate here? >> absolutely. it is appropriate. it was the states back in 1933 that ended alcohol prohibition. they were the ones that took the initiative to move the federal government towards change. >> you are a supporter, i know, of the decriminalization of marijuana. with your background in law enforcement specifically in narcotics, how did you come to this political point of view? >> well, it didn't happen overnight, but there was one key moment back in 2000, october. i had just retired from the maryland state police the year before and went to work for baltimore police department as a commander of training. a good friend of mine and comrade ed to thely was working undercover for the state police. he was assigned to an fbi task force in washington, d.c., and he was buying drugs from a mid-level drug dealer. this time the drug dealer decided he wanted to keep the drugs and the money, and he executed ed totley right on the spot. he shot him in the side of the head. that made me start to think, i thought back to marcellus ward, who was working undercover for the baltimore police department when he was back in the '80s. he was killed in a similar matter. a couple of officers were killed right on the street by drug dealers, but a couple years after, the dawson family of 7 right here in baltimore were murdered one night by a drug dealer who occupied the corner right outside their home. the mother was working with the police being a good citizen. he set the home on fire because he disagreed with her interfering with her marketplace. that was my turning point. >> when you talk to people who disagree on this issue and when you make the case for decriminalization. how do you explain why incidents of violence like that, people that you know and worked with and seen colleagues die in the line of fire on the war on drugs, how do you make the case that decriminalization would get rid of that saturday sort of horrific violence. >> not decriminalization. that does remove the criminal penalty from possession. you still would have your elicit trade, the drug dealers on the street, the cartel in mexico. legalization with regulation and control is what we want to do. we want to remove this completely from the hands of criminal gangs and the cartel. that will affect the violence. that's when the violence goes down. >> in terms of what's been approved by voters in colorado and washington state, it seems unclear to me now what will happen in the states. where state law is in opposition to federal law. how is law enforcement going to handle this, and ultimately is this a decision that's made at the political level or at the law enforcement level? >> well, it's made at both levels, and i think this is a win-win for police. in seattle the police chief said they're not going to arrest people for possession of marijuana anymore, even though the law doesn't take effect until december. it's a win-win because it has been drug prohibition like with marijuana that has driven a wedge in between police and community. number one, police can get back to the business that they want to do, of what they want to do, and that is to protect people from violent people. rape, robbery, murder. crimes against our children, domestic violence. we can get back to the business of that. we didn't -- most of us didn't sign on this job to it arrest people for smoking pot. it will repair -- it gives us an opportunity to repair the damage that has been done between police and community. you know, racial profiling, the foundation for racial profiling today in this country is the drug war. the drug war just doesn't work anymore. there's not one piece of it that works. we have more drugs in our community than ever before. it's very costly. four decades, $1.3 trillion. our prisons are bursting at the seams with black and brown people. we need a change, and it's time for the president to lead on this one. >> neal franklin, a three-decade long career in law enforcement. thank you very much for your time tonight. you speak with uncommon authority on this subject. thank you. >> thank you, rachel. >> i can't help but wonder, what would j. edgar hoover have done with the petraeus file? hold on. that's coming up. >>> arizona, anytime you want to finish counting ballots, it's fine with the rest of us. don't let us stop you. more ahead. downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters, here with my favorite new intern, jimmy. mmm! fresh! and it's been in the closet for 12 weeks! unbelievable! unstopables! i'll show you how! ♪ just shake them into the washer i can't believe this lasts 12 weeks! neither can they. so you're going on tour to prove it. downy unstopables. follow jimmy's unstopables tour on youtube. >>> did you get your official results, senator flake? is it senator flake? >> congressman jeff flake of arizona, not senator jeff flake, not senator-elect jeff flake. awkwardly telling reporters today he feels comfortable about the vote count in his senate race in arizona. that was at this morning's less than comfortable photo-op with minority leader mitch mcconnell along with two actually totally all the votes have been counted entirely official republican freshmen senators-elect. there were two of them and then there's jeff flake. that's the problem with being from the state of arizona these days. a full week after election day and only 83% of the vote is tallied in the race. yesterday that number was at 80%, meaning roughly 1:5 votes in that race still uncounted. that led the campaign to say maybe they conceded that senate race too soon. arizona have been counting ballots at a snail's pace working through hundreds of thousands of ballots, many provisional ballots from first-time minority voters who showed up to vote on election day to be told that even though they may have registered, their names were not put on the books. today officials in pima and cochise counties, only 700 votes separate two candidates. who wins could depend on whether voters in a heavily latino precinct in that district get their ballots kountded, and that is a matter for the courts. the republican campaign, the mcsally campaign went to court today to keep 130 provisional ballots from being counted. they want them thrown out. they claim the envelopes weren't properly sealed, so the ballots inside the envelopes were maybe tampered with. 96 of the 130 ballots come from a heavily latino precinct. two more house races in arizona were not decided on election night have been decided both in favor of the democrats. they will both be going to congress by only a few thousand votes in arizona house races. last night the arizona secretary of state announced ballots in arizona still needed to be counted. tonight it's still over 300,000. they've still got more than 320,000 still to count, and in one whole day of counting they made 18,000 votes worth of progress. really? voters in arizona who cast provisional ballots have until the close of business tomorrow, wednesday, to return to your county elections office with your i.d. to prove you're a registered vote so your provisional ballot can be counted. county elections officials have until friday, three days from now, to verify and count remaining provisional ballots, all 324,000 of them. by friday. and they're counting them now at a rate of 18,000 a day. you guys need to pick up the pace to meet the deadline, aren't you? come on, arizona, this is ridiculous. you need to fix this. >>> in 1942, the federal bureau of investigation broke into the offices of a group called the american youth congress. 1942. american youth congress was a progressive group at a time when that could get you branded a communist and hauled before government officials to defend yourself. at the time, the american youth congress was concerned with questions like why young americans were being drafted into war at age 18, even though for every other legal thing in the country people were not considered to have full rights of citizenship until they turned 21. when the fbi broke into their offices in 1942, they went looking for correspondence they had with one specific notorious anti-american revolutionary of the day, the first lady. eleanor roosevelt, known for being an advocate for youth and causes including youth congress. the demand for report on eleanor roosevelt's dealings with that group came directly from the director of the fbi, j. edgar hoover. one of the more notable examples of our top law enforcement agency being used to gather potentially politically damaging, potentially embarrassing, but hardly criminal information about public figures, but it was not of course the last instance of that. decades later, we're still wrestling with the legacy of j. edgar hoover and the fiefdom he made of the fbi. he kept extensive files he called official and confidential files. there were secret documents that tracked the lives of famous and powerful people, including details about those peoples' lives that were not criminal but would have been embarrassing to those famous people if they became known. he kept these special files in his office, out of the mainstream of fbi business, away from the criminal investigations that were supposed to be what the fbi was doing. he kept those secret files because the secrets they contained gave him power. and as such, they were not suited to any law enforcement purpose but to his needs and that's called abuse of power. we now know from released hoover files that he wire tapped president john f. kennedy. we know he told president kennedy he was aware of an extramarital affair he was having, and then he told the president which chicago mobster his mistress was also visiting. as civil rights unfolded, he wire tapped martin luther king junior. he tracked his personal life, including supposedly which day of the week he supposedly met with his mistress. apparently it was tuesdays. in the secrets of the fbi, ronald kessler wrote the agent duly recorded that robert kennedy had gone to visit his suspected extramarital sweetheart, marilyn monroe, shortly before she died. and all these stories might peak the public's interest. none criminal in nature. each of them gave j. edgar hoover power over these public people whose secrets he harvested. he used federal law enforcement tactics and resources to gather personal and noncriminal damning information on public people and then lorded it over them to advance his own causes. under j. edgar hoover, the fbi became a free-lance agency, sometimes used against the president, but it was sometimes for hire by the president. like when the fbi tapped the phones of reporters that richard nixon didn't like, and sometimes the fbi was just used for the sake of j. edgar hoover's sad twisted little ends. when the fbi, yes, worked on crime, but under hoover the fbi worked on politics, too. the agency's efforts in the latter undermined everything the nation needed from the fbi on the former. that's why congress ordered reforms for the fbi after watergate. investigating crime while also secretly playing politics is a combination with a bad outcome. that's one of the things we learned from the scandal of the nixon administration and its downfall, but also from decades watching j. edgar hoover operate. last week we learned general david petraeus had an affair. the fbi discovered that affair over the summer while it was looking into something else. those revelations led to protest from members of congress that they had not been told sooner than last week, along with everyone else. they wanted to be notified about this. ranking democrat on the intelligence committee dianne feinstein says the fbi should have told congress, bipartisan, republican, homeland security committee calms alerting congress in an instance like this the fbi's obligation. lawmakers are sure to demand answers for why they were not told what the fbi knew as soon as the fbi knew it. they're sure to demand answers about that later this week when house officials are called to testify about the attack on our consulate in benghazi. we're still wondering whether or not david petraeus will be called to testify, too. the story about petraeus is quite another thing. one is a matter of national and international importance, the other appears to be unfortunate end of a decorated military career, the cratering of one guy's family life, maybe one woman's family life, too. mindful of the legacy of j. edgar hoover, the fbi kept the embarrassing personal details of david petraeus' private life separate from the question of whether he broke the law. we are all human. we would all like to know about the affair petraeus, has become the must see soap opera of the national week now that the election is over and the new congress begins. it is way more gripping than the inaptly named fiscal cliff. it is more important to the press. from senators to members of congress to little old me and you, we would all like to know more about the petraeus scandal in the basic sense. i wager not many of us, even those hopping mad lawm
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resignation of cia director david petraeus in which he cited his own marital infidelity. there are mixed reports on when the white house learned that the four-star general had a potentially serious problem, but military officials reported they had some suspicion of infidelity for several years. earlier today i spoke to washington national correspondent greg miller who wrote that article. >> white house officials insist they did not learn about that david p david petraeus had a big problem on his hand until monday. petraeus lays it outside, then president obama accepts the resignation on friday. if there were any national security implications of this fbi investigation into the e-mail, then that would have required some prior notification to somebody in the white house. if you're a cia director is in a situation that is creating a national security issue, then there's no way that the fbi doesn't let the white house know about that well in advance. >> joining me now for today's strategy talk, former democratic congressman martin frost and former republican congressman tom davis. gent
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extramarital affair david petraeus heads to both sides of capitol hill this morning for hearings on what happened in the leadup and aftermath of the september attack that killed four americans in libya. >>> meanwhile, at the other end of pennsylvania avenue, president obama gets ready to sit down with congressional leaders from both parties to try to figure out the fiscal cliff. is speaker boehner ready to make a deal anytime soon? >>> plus, major news for big business. the justice department hits bp with the biggest criminal penalty ever assessed on a corporation for the 2010 gulf oil spill. >>> and so much for the ideas that twinkies last forever. bankruptcy breaks a big-time baker. >>> good morning from washington. it's friday, november 16, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert in for chuck todd who hasn't worked hard enough at all this entire election campaign, he's now going to asia to cover the president's trip. former cia director david petraeus will testify in the benghazi attacks before the senate intelligence committee. he just wrapped up testifying on the house s
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director david petraeus gets more extraordinary by the minute. this morning washington woke up to the news that the top commander of u.s. and nato forces in afghanistan, general john allen, has also been investigated by the fbi after having exchange, according to a senior defense official, possibly thousands of potentially inappropriate e-mails with jill kelley, the 37-year-old social liaison at the heart of the scandal that led to general petraeus' resignation. house homeland security committee chair peter king had another term to describe the unfolding drama. >> it's really a great tragedy. general petraeus, one of our most distinguished generals and general allen, considered a super star in the military, did an outstanding job in afghanistan, was going to go to nato, it's just tragic. you're right, this has the elements in so ways of a hollywood movie or trashy novel. >> a brief primer on the characters until so-called trashy novel. allen who is married became ensnared in the investigation because of his e-mail correspondent spns with kelley who in may started receiving a series of what
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. there's an unfolding story of the resignation of cia director david petraeus that broke on "the cycle" on monday. when the lame duck congress waddling in tomorrow, there's aa promise of a con sill to her tone. steve, can you fall off a sloef? >> it feels really good, exactly. >> they start to tackle the nation's debt. there's fear of sbimgtsment cuts and, of course, tax reform. the president is packing a he schedule with high profile meetings to try and get something done. tomorrow labor leaders, wednesday business leaders and corporate executives, and friday congress aal leaders from both sides of the aisle. we start with rob cox at reuters breaking news. rob, do you expect compromise or continuing to fight? >> well, i do expect compromise, but remember, the fiscal cliff is one artificial construct cooked up by the congress and the president to basically get us to think about a much bigger problem, which is what you pointed out. entitlement reform and tax reform and all the big issues and putting america into the accounts. the problem is the president -- i mean, you know, frank
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. discussions involving the future of general david petraeus, director of the cia. talk about this for a second. you and chuck and i have been communicating about it. i'm told that he was at the white house yesterday, that while the people he was supposed to meet with yesterday at langley were told he had gone for a meeting with the president, in fact, did not see the president personally yesterday, that he is expected to see the president later today. this is still all in progress. that it is not now accurate to say that he will be leaving the administration or that any resignation has been offered or requested. but as we all know, there have been some tensions. a lot of controversy over benghazi. he and the president were never close initially during the transition period when the president was running for office and then during the transition when he was coming into office. and brian, david petraeus has been a star and a star player, but this has been an awkward transition at best over at the cia. anything you want to add to that are or check? >> some of the initial coverage when he w
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investigation into general allen and the scandal still surrounding david petraeus. carney attempted to keep the white house out of the fray. >> he has faith in allen. and i would refer you to the pentagon for the process under way with regards to general allen. the president was certainly surprised when he was informed about the situation regarding general petraeus on thursday. he greatly appreciates general petraeus's remarkable service to his country. but he's not going to make grand decisions about things based on, you know, two situations, two individual cases. he's focused on the missions that the military is tasked with. >> let's look at all that's happened. the pentagon is combing through thousands of pages of documents belonging to john allen. he's denied any wrong doing. a u.s. official tells nbc news that the documents could connect general allen to jill kelley. she's the same woman whose original complaint about harassing e-mails set off the initial investigation. e-mails that multiple law enforcement sources tell nbc was traced back to this woman, paula broadwell. she's admitted
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should go after me. >> former cia director david petraeus will testify before the senate intelligence committee. >> general petraeus had an affair with his biographer. people are snapping up copies of the book. >> it's so pathetic. >> the book is available in hard cover and extremely hard cover. >>> today on an i'm sorry i lost conference call with top campaign don't oorors, mitt rom said the president won the election because he game african-american and latino voters, quote, gifts. abc news has this audio. >> what the president's campaign did was focus on certain members of his base coalition, give them extraordinary financial gifts from the government and then work very aggressively to turn them out to vote. >> romney also said that the president's campaign focused on giving targeted groups a big gift so he made a big effort on small things. those small things, by the way, add up to trillions of dollars. he said the president followed the old play book of wooing specific interest groups, especially the african-american community, the his it andic community and young people. mr. rom
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leader of an organization such as ours. this afternoon the president graciously accepted my resignation. the president for his part has issued a statement this afternoon and i'm quoting him. david petraeus has provided extraordinary service to the united states for decades. as director of the central intelligence agency he has continued to serve with characteristic intellectual rigor, dedication, and patriotism. by any measure through his lifetime of service david petraeus has made our country safer and stronger. today i accepted his resignation as director of the central intelligence agency. i am completely confident that the cia will continue to thrive and carry out its essential mission. i want to bring in, first of all, nbc's mike viqueira, who is live for us at the white house. mike, his letter cites his personal indiscretion. >> reporter: yes. >> but is there any indication that there could have been some backstory to this? perhaps some threat of blackmail that may have prompted him to take this action? >> reporter: none whatsoever at this point, martin. at this point -- and details are still emerging, but you have to take this at face value. there are so few real surprises that we find anymore in washington in the lives of public officials. this certainly ranks among them. all day long ang dre ya mitchell who first broke the story, there was indication that something was up with general petraeus. you would get speculation about benghazi. and then came that statement from general petraeus that you just read saying that he had an extramarital affair and he had tendered his resignation. it turns out that happened yesterday here at the white house. he came to visit the president. he offered his resignation. he told the president why. the president called him back "today" and accepted that resignation and elevating now mike morell, a career cia officer as interim head and let the speculation begin on what's going to be happening there and where it fits in the con sell laying of all these famous names moving about the cabinet at the outset of the second term. >> given the fact that the president met with the general yesterday, is there some suggestion or any suggestion that the president may have asked him to reflect for a little prior to sending this letter as he did today? >> reporter: that's a good question, and that's one of the first questions that we had as we -- chuck "today" and i and the people in our nbc booth in the white house sift through this and figure out exactly what happened. what was the delay? it's interesting when you consider the fact that general petraeus and the president alluded to the fact, here is an individual who was in the army for -- a four star gem, 37 years in the army, that happened to be the same number of years he's been married evidently. he led that surge in iraq. he largely was credited for that surge which many people credit as turning around the fortunes of allied forces in iraq. he was turned to by president obama. you remember that the leader of forces, allied forces in afghanistan, general stanley mcchrystal, was ultimately fired by the president because of incendiary, controversial remarks he made in that "rolling stone" interview. the president turns to general david petraeus to lead another surge in another country, a predominantly muslim country in afghanistan, then calling petraeus home or at least here to washington in june of last year to lead the cia. this is certainly a bombshell by any measure, martin. >> to make that point, someone no less than senator dianne feinstein, who is chairman of the senate intelligence committee, today issued a statement saying, and i'm quoting her, i very much regret the resignation of david petraeus as director of the cia. this is an enormous loss for our nation's intelligence community and for our country. this is a huge loss, is it not? >> reporter: and dianne feinstein, who is as you mentioned the chairman of the senate intelligence committee, said she would have fought for petraeus if petraeus had chosen to try to stay. but this obviously was a very personal decision by general petraeus. one must add given the sensitivity of the position he held, one that could not be said to be unexpected now that we know the facts. and another irony there is here we have general petraeus, if you recall during the iraq surge when it was first proposed when he first came before congress, there were many on the left who ridiculed what they saw as the escalation, the unwise escalation of -- >> i remember that very well, mike. >> and they called him general betray-ous. there was a big scene on capitol hill when he came to advocate for what he wanted to do militarily and strategically. again, he was credited with turning that war around because of that strategy he advocated. a long and illustrious career comes to a remember ignominious end here. >> i want to bring in jack jacobs and jonathan alter a columnist for bloomberg. jack, are you surprised? >> oh, yes, i'm shocked. general petraeus has been a symbol of rectitude among military people for nearly 40 years. i knew him when he was a cadet at west point and i was teaching there. his wife hollies a the daughter of the superintendent of the military academy. great loss to the cia, to the country. very sad for the family and for the government and for the country. >> one assumes though, colonel, that given his position as heading what is obviously known as the silent service, that this kind of indiscretion in and of itself is something that many people sadly it happens in their lives but in relation to his position it made it impossible -- >> well, yeah, it would be i impossible, especially now, especially in the circumstance in which the united states is under great threat and there's a wide variety of threats. there are problems between the executive branch and the congress in funding and so forth. you know, somebody once said not that long ago and says it repeatedly, if you fire at everybody who had had an indiscretion in washington, there would be absolutely left in town, but general petraeus and the cia are totally and completely different. a lot of it has to do with our expectations, particularly of the man, not just the position as the director of the cia, but the man. he was a symbol of rectitude in service and sacrifice, and it's such a shock that nothing else could have been done accept to have his resignation. >> john, the relationship between the president and general petraeus has been portrayed into its early formation as being tense and difficult but actually of late it's become much more mutually supportive and, indeed, in general petraeus' letter of resignation he says of the president thank you for your extraordinary service to our country. clearly the relationship between the two had improved. indeed, none of us had expected his position in the cabinet to change, did we? >> not at all. if you turn the clock back to 2009, there was real concern among the political people in the white house that he was going to run for president on the republican party ticket. it sounds a little out there now, but these were, you know, top aides to the president who worried about that. not that petraeus was planning to do so, but they saw him as a potential political threat. that's how popular he was. that's how much stature he had after the iraq surge, and so there was some real distrust there initially. not necessarily from the president personally but from the president's team. then over time when they got to know each other, it was a relationship that really deepened into one of real mutual respect. now, this is in the realm of speculation, martin, but just to pick up on colonel jacobs' comments, you can kind of get away with this kind of thing in almost any agency of government except the cia. and the reason is because when you go to work at the cia, they ask you, you know, have you ever had an extramarital affair, and if you have it can be harder, maybe even impossible, to get a job there. why? because you're open to blackmail. if you have a secret of any kind, this or something else, you are potentially open to blackmail. now, was general petraeus open to blackmail? absolutely not. but they have to be able to fire underlings who might be opening themselves up to blackmail because they have some kind of a deep, dark secret, and so it's very hard to be the person at the top who has had a secret if you need to in some cases fire underlings who have secrets. so it's just different when it's the cia. >> sure. colonel jacobs, this indiscretion aside, general petraeus' performance in iraq, particularly during the surge, in afghanistan, was pret formidab formidable, wasn't it? he went into circumstances that were difficult and he managed to improve things. i recall during the surge and post surge the kind of insurgent violence against american forces and allied forces went down. this man was a tremendous leader in that sense. >> there's one big reason for that, and that is that he's a really, really smart soldier and a smart general. he knew that what we had on our hands was an insurgency and it wouldn't yield to the conventional use of the military power which had failed before in similar circumstances. he was a student of history. he no know what is we did with military service in vietnam and it 235i8d because we used it in a conventional way and it was an unconventional war. both he and mcchrystal 2k3wr5ag there's only one way you can fight it. we know how to do it. all we have to do is have the political will to do it. and he embarked on that, on fighting with a conventional -- an unconventional way of doing things, and it had huge success. the failure, of course, at the end is we waited so long to do it properly that by the time we got started, a decade had passed and we didn't have the political will to carry on. indeed, no matter what else you can say about mcchrystal's performance, the fact that -- you could argue that he should have been fired after he made the speech in london, mcchrystal, but that he had the right way of doing things. he was absolutely right, it was going to take a decade. so petraeus was absolutely right. he was very, very good at what he did. at the end of the day we didn't have the political will to pursue it and we started too late. that doesn't change what happened. >> but the manual he put together on counter insurgency is now one of the legendary -- >> it's scripture now, it's the equivalent. >> as the colonel said it may have succeeded for the british in malaysia, but it failed spectacularly for the americans in vietnam. it was resurrected by general petraeus that you can fight these counter insurgency wars and you can have some success with nontraditional military -- >> and that manual, by the way, although he had a big staff to help him write it, at the end of the day you could say that he wrote it. he edited the whole thing. >> he's a brilliant guy. >> this is a man with a ph.d. from princeton. mike viqueira at the white house, there's been speculation that leon panetta was expected to be replaced at defense. how much does this now complicate matters for the president? >> a good question. i think that specktation continues. obviously, we're talking about a lot of different positions if you want to talk about cabinet agencies in the second term. obviously secretary of state clinton this, some sitting senators who have been known to harbor some ambitions for some of these cabinet positions, where they end up, a big parlor game there. i think just at first blush they're going to take their time with the cia posting. i don't know if it directly affects what leon panetta is going to do. obviously, leon panetta has a lot of institutional knowledge hague not only served at the white house and in congress but as the dci, director of central intelligence before moving over to the defense department. so all of that very much up in the air. i would imagine that they're sort of going to stand pat where they are with by all accounts a very competent individual, the deputy director stepping in at least for now in an interim role. >> mike, jack jacobs, and jonathan alter, please stay with us. much more ahead. >>> if you're just joining us, we have breaking news. cia director david petraeus has resigned. he handed his resignation letter to the president just a short time ago citing an extramarital affair as the reason. for more analysis, we're here with colonel jack jacobs, jonathan alter, mike viqueira who is at the white house, joining us also in washington is michael crowley. thank you all. jonathan, to what extent does this resignation complicate the president's foreign policy? because as i understand it, general petraeus was responsible for running a number of the drone attacks that were operating particularly on the pakista pakista pakistan/afghanistan border. >> those are cia operations, they're classified but kind of open secrets at this point, and one of the big changes in washington in the last five years or so is that much of what had traditionally been under the purview of the pentagon moved over to the cia because they had to do things like, you know, violate pakistani air space and that sort of thing. i don't tend to think it will complicate u.s. foreign policy. i don't see it leading to any change in policy. it's just the loss of a good and very bright man. >> yeah. colonel jack, officials say that general petraeus' deputy, michael morell, will serve as interim director of the cia. what do we know about michael morell? >> very well thought of inside the organization and ems where, particularly in congress and at the white house. >> a career intelligence -- >> career intelligence -- effectively a career intelligence guy. very capable, extremely steady and very well thought of. and this is, of course, the highest position he has or will ever hold. the likelihood is he will be replaced as soon as they can find somebody who is more politically oriented, more satisfactory in a political sense to the white house, but they can leave him there for a long time doing this. he's done it for a long time and is very well thought of. >> there's a history of cia directors being rejected by the senate when their confirmation comes up. it's a very hard job to fill. jimmy carter when he first became president nominated theodore sorenson, the former kennedy aide. he was rejected by the senate because he had been a conscientious objector during world war ii. bobby ray inman, who had a distinguished naval career, he was rejected in the first bush administration. so, you know, it's not going to necessarily be all that easy to fill this post. >> michael crowley of "time" magazine, we know that general petraeus was due to appear or is due to appear on thursday before a congressional committee that's investigating what happened in benghazi. do you think that this resignation will have an affect on whether he appears in person or will that job be taken on this occasion by his deputy? >> i don't know the answer to that, martin. i wouldn't want to venture a wild guess. i would say that that was going to be a difficult and awkward appearance for petraeus. it will be if he still goes. probably the most difficult political moment of his career. some of the recent reporting on what happened in benghazi suggests that if there was a security lapse, the cia may well have been to blame. that the state department consulate was also being guarded by cia forces that were personnel that were based in this annex which appears to have been a cia building. now, there's some dispute and murkiness around this, but some of the reporting from about a week or so ago suggests that the state department people thought that the cia kind of had the security covered. there were warnings coming from within that compound that security was not good enough and people were very worried about their safety, and so the question for petraeus and his subordinates is were you supposed to have this covered? did you realize there was a larger security threat than could be handled? are you to blame for this? i don't think petraeus has ever really had to answer questions quite that tough before. the closest comparison would be when he went up and essentially told people to have patience with the surge in iraq and that the surge was working, but i feel like he had a little bit more of an upper hand in that situation. will he actually turn up to testify? i don't know. i don't want to just guess at it. >> but equally, michael -- sorry, i was going to ask jack actually, colonel jack, the situation in relation to benghazi is still complicated. throughout the presidential campaign it was the president who was being attacked by republicans as being somehow responsible and the state department. what michael crowley was just saying was that actually emerging evidence suggests it may well have been the cia that to some extent had some responsibility in terms of fault. >> i will give you my view as a ground soldier. i spent plenty of time in combat this situations a lot like the one that occurred in benghazi. when you have small arms, automatic weapons, rocket propels grenades and mortars used in concert that's a preplanned usually prerehearsed attack. did not happen spontaneously. to the extent the white house said this is the result of a spontaneous demonstration, that's complete and total nonsense. anybody who ever wore the uniform could have told them that and may have told them that in which case there's some dissembling of the facts at the time that was said. having said all that, this is a very difficult thing to say, but ambassador stevens had absolutely, positively no business being in enbenghazi with two cia agents or 100 cia agents. the country was unsecure, the country was in the middle of a violent revolution. he had been in the area a long time. new exactly what a really bad situation looked like, could recognize it, and really had no business being there. so there was some complicity at the state department about that. there was no reason for him to be there. you couldn't generate the kinds of forces that you woot require to defend the place in short order given a rotten situation that was taking place. there's a lot of blame going around. you could argue that the cia should have known this was a really rotten situation and could have sent a lot more agents there. if i are were the director of the cia i would argue i have no business sending more agents down there at a time when what you needed was for the ambassador to get the heck out of there. >> thank you all. stay with us. much more ahead. >>> final for the your business entrepreneurs of the week. kathleen bailey and susan kad are encouraging customers to shop local. they created the monthly ladies night in the maginot la park area of 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for the latest offers. >>> now to the president freshly re-elected and now setting the table for negotiations with capitol hill inviting congressional leaders to the white house next week for urgent talks on the fiscal cliff. this is no exaggeration because early next year trillions of dollars in tax increases and automatic spending cuts will come into effect. and so in his first public statement since tuesday's emphatic victory, the president pushed for a deal on tax cuts for the middle class arguing there's no reason for them to be linked to tax cuts for the wealthy. >> let's not wait. even as we're negotiating a broader deficit reduction package, let's extend the middle class tax cuts right now. it would immediately take a huge chunk of the economic uncertainty off the table. >> the president said that his re-election means that voters support what he called a balanced approach to deficit reduction. meaning that historically low rates for higher earners should now expire. >> i refuse to accept any approach that isn't balanced. i am not going to ask students and seniors and middle class families to pay down the entire deficit while people like me making over $250,000 aren't asked to pay a dime more in taxes. this was a central question during the election. it was debated over and over again and on tuesday night we found out that the majority of americans agree with my approach. >> the president's remarks came just hours after house speaker john boehner did his own version of setting the table locking up the good silver and cooking up a romneyesque scheme for more revenue without raising rates on upper income taxpayers. >> i don't want to box myself in, i don't want to box anybody else in. it's clear that there are a lot of special interests loopholes in the tax code, both corporate and personal. there are all kinds of deductions. some of which make sense, others don't, and by lowering rates and cleaning up the tax code, we know that we're going to get more economic growth. >> in other words, mitt's legacy lives on, but what about that electoral trouncing of the republican candidate just this past tuesday? >> it's clear that as a political party we've got some work to do, and i think the principles of our party are sound. but how we talk about wholt we are as a party is clearly conversations are under way and will continue. >> i see. it's not the policy, it's a just how we talk about how we talk about the gop. okay, great. let's get right to our panel in washington. msnbc political analyst karen finney and my colleagues toure and msnbc contributor joy reid also managing editor of thegrio.com. >> toure, the president said today that his election victory was based on the american people wanting a balanced and responsible approach to the deficit. so here is the question. does speaker boehner remain faithful to grover norquist or does he respond to the american people? >> the answer is the former. grover norquist is the actual head of the republican party, so they will continue this two decade thing of we don't raise taxes for any reason at all no matter what. even when the american people speak and say we want that balanced approach that the president wants. >> even when 60% of the people came out of exit polls sand said we believe that taxes should be raised on the most wealthy. >> yes, yes. the party was tarred as the party of the wealthy. that's a large reason why they lost, and yet they come back and they say, we're going to defend the right of the top 2% to not have to pay more. do they want to lose again in 2016 and 2020? i think they do because they don't want to change. the principles of the party are not in trouble. that is absolutely wrong. >> karen, mitch mcconnell, who hasn't been seen since tuesday's be election, issued this statement. he says, i wasn't sent to washington to raise anybody's taxes to pay for more wasteful spending, and this election doesn't change my principles. >> yes. >> does that sound like the cooperation, conscientious, and the common sense that the president is looking for? >> no. and if you combine that with the rhetoric we've been hearing from a number of the right wing conservatives about this is really about the people voted for president obama want free stuff, it sure sounds a lot like what mitt romney was saying in that fund-raiser about the 47% of americans. >> uh-huh. >> it really sounds like these guys not only don't get it, they don't care what the americans want. they have their agenda. they have their ideology, and they're still going to try to pursue it, not recognizing that it was roundly rejected, but here is the most important thing. we, the people, will have to be the ones who hold them accountable. i think the president will obviously fight it, but this goes to something that the president has talked about many times, which is there is more work to be done and we have to make sure that we apply the political pressure to hold these guys accountable. >> joy, karen is absolutely right and toure, they are not listening. they have learned nothing. >> yeah. >> literally in the heat of election defeat, they have learned nothing. >> and there was a ceo that even wrote an open letter to the president saying, mr. president, we're ready to work with you by having you do everything mitt romney was going to do -- >> of course. >> so if you just do that, we're happy to come to the table. but, look, the thing is there is a form of discipline that's going to be imposed on republicans whether they like it or not, whether they recognize the election happened or not. it's going to happen on december 31st. because the president can simply say, okay, guys if you don't want to work with me on extending the middle class tax cuts and raising -- we're talking about going back to the bill clinton rates. we're not talking about going back to the rates before john -- >> we're talking 2% of this country. >> exactly. 2%. >> exactly. you're talking about 400 families that are going to pay substantially more and by the way, everyone gets a tax cut up to $250,000, not just the people who make under $250,000. it's just after that you get a tax increase. on december 3 1st, all the bush tax cuts go and republicans will suddenly magically come back to the table to get any tax cuts. >> the thing that karen has been talking to me about on e-mail and phone calls is that they keep saying -- >> how dare you speak to one of our preferred contributor privately but carry on. >> the republicans say we don't want to give away free stuff. we can't out give them in the free stuff. that's wh they think people of color and poor people want is free stuff. that's not what we want but that shows how out of touch they are. they think if they put a marco rubio on those policies that are hostile, then they're going to make up the difference. >> everyone will be persuaded. >> it's a mad man party in a modern family world and as long as they think it's about giving away free stuff to people of color and poor people, they're going to continue losing over and over and over. >> karen, well, but also that's why i made the connection to the 47% comment because the truth is it's not -- most -- the majority of people who voted for president obama, he has now twice won with the broadest coalition of americans in the history of our country. that's black, that's white, that's old, that's young -- >> none of them are relevant to the republican party. why are you even mentioning them? women? why are you mentioning them? mitch mcconnell doesn't recognize those groups. keep going. >> no, he doesn't, and that's fine for him for now but we're going to make him recognize us if he doesn't get back in line. they're completely out of touch with the country they're living in. i will just say it, the bottom line is we have to be the ones who hold them accountable. we have to be the ones who say you can't ignore the results of tuesday. >> joy, someone no less than the nobel laureate paul krugman has suggested to the president that don't even bother to the negotiate with them. go to the fiscal cliff and fall off. it. >> i think it's given a lot of the beltway media i have to say and a lot of people on wall street this excuse to make it sound like on january 1st, the world would literally end. what would happen is number one, negotiations would begin immediately to restore the middle class parts of the tax cut and there would be sort of a slow but, you know, it could be potentially serious if it went on too long but i doubt it would go on very long. once you hit january 1st, republicans will be sobered up immediately. they will realize the election of 2012 did happen and they'll have to come back to the table. >> we may just have to wait -- >> on "the cycle" we call it the gradual fiscal slope, it's not a cliff. >> thank you. good-byes are tough as we know, especially to those who brought us all such great pleasure, so you take a deep 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[ male announcer ] when you combine creamy velveeta with zesty rotel tomatoes and green chilies, you get a bowl of queso that makes even this get-together better. >>> the president said today his re-election proved americans wanted a balanced approach to dealing with the deficit. but the conservative common tear yacht has had enough of reality for one week so they've gone back to the tind fer kind of attacks that were dismissed as knob sense on tuesday. >> the demographics are changing. it's not a traditional america anymore, and there are 50% of the voting public who want stuff. they want things. >> if mitt romney cannot win in this economy, then the tipping point has been reached. we have more takers than makers, and it's over. >> joining us here in new york is jimy williams, an msnbc contributor, and from washington julian epstein, a democratic strategist. thank you, gentlemen, both for being with us. julian, i know conservatives don't want fact checkers dictating this election, but the makers/takers argument doesn't actually hold water because bloomberg reports 70% of counties with the fastest growth in food stamp aid during the last four years voted republican in 2008. why do they keep pushing this false notion? >> because they need a fall guy as comfort food, and it's a silly argument. it's not just the bloomberg data. if you look at who gets most of the safety net expenditures in the country, it's seniors. they're one of the few demographics that republicans overperform on. also if you look at red states versus blue states relatively, red states pay fewer tacks and get more benefits than do blue states. bill clinton has a great line that if you want to live like a republican, you should vote for a democrat because democrats will give you better economics. and that's, in fact, true. if you compare job performance under democratic presidents versus republican presidents over the last say 30 years, you will find that democrats on average produce far, far more jobs than do republicans. the problem for republicans is that they have an intellectually bankrupt economic policy and they've got a social policy that is worthy of the john burch society. these are the reasons the republicans lost and the fact the republicans can't face this, these facts, and understand and deal with them, it's not just that it is ingracious or ungracious in defeat and a lack of grace in defeat, it's also that they just don't want to understand that this is a changing country, this is a changing country demographically and they don't want to understand exactly the many reasons that they lost this election, and that's frankly good news for democrats if they don't want to face reality. >> but that's bad news, isn't it, jimmy, for republicans? >> i think it's bad news for the country. i like a healthy two-party little system. >> everybody does. >> we were founded in 1789, and this is how we've been doing it ever since. we're a young democracy but we're the best, and i like having a healthy debate between the two parties. i think that's good for america. america likes it as well. the problem is weevil deinvolved now into sort of a race to the bottom. >> one of the parties is in another milky way, into another intergalactic galaxy. it doesn't seem they have recognized anything that happened on tuesday. >> i said before that i thought that mitt romney was a terrible candidate not because he didn't have ideas but because he had no core. and here is the problem with republican party at this point in time. they tell women what to do with their bodies, tell gays vote for us, we have a big tent but once you vote for us we'll screw you when it comes to discrimination. they tell latinos, you know what? we want you to be in our party but they vote against the dream act. this is an inherently big -- it's a moral problem. the great irony is they quote morality when doing these things and saying that women need to have transvaginal probes and saying to gays, it's okay to be separate but equal. i thought we finished separate but equal in this country in the 1960s. it's okay to say to latinos in this country, you're not here through any fault of your own, your parents brought you here and you're still a second class citizen. >> one of the things you haven't explained to me is how the republican party manages to persuade people to vote against their own interests. how does that happen? >> well, that's spin. and -- >> it must be more than spin. >> no, it's spin. the american people -- frankly, i don't think a lot of the american people give a damn what happens in washington, d.c. i don't think they pay any attention to it. if only hatch of the voting age population votes, doesn't that tell you everything that you need to know? that means half of the electorate doesn't care what happens in washington, d.c. they care about the cost of gas or the cost of milk or cost of tuition, et cetera, et cetera. the problem is if they don't care and they're doing nothing about it, then the bozos in washington, d.c., can get by with the crap they pull every week. >> julian -- sorry, go ahead. >> i was going to say, we're living in an anti-incumbency era. if you look at the last four election cycles, in 2006 the democrats got the house and in 2008 obama won. 2010 the democrats lost the congress. the question is how was obama able to break that cycle? he was able to break that cycle because he won this election but as much as he won it, republicans lost. and i think mitt romney actually overperformed for the republicans. if you look at all the polling data, all the social stuff that jim ji was talking about, most of the voting public finds that stuff odious. the views on imgraths, the views on women's issues, a whole host of social issues. secondly there, is no message on the economy. they have nothing other than johnny one note on cutting taxes. we've talked about taxes are at 15% of gdp right now. it ain't an economic policy. it isn't intellectually bold. isn't intellectually defensible and that's the problem for the republicans. yes, i agree we want to have a healthy two-party system but it's not going to happen until the republicans do some soul searching. >> julian, jimmy, thank you so much. do stay with us. more to come. it ain't an economic policy. much. >>> we're back with more on the resignation of general david petraeus as head of the cia citing an extramarital affair. michael hastings has written about general petraeus in "rolling stone" and in his book "the operators." i joins us from chicago. mike, could you put general petraeus' career in con ftext f us? >> sure. i mean, you're dealing with one of the most influential and historic generals in modern american military history. i would have to say on a level of reporting, it's very bizarre what we're seeing unfold today, and, in fact, the idea that it's going to be an extramarital affair where people finally start examining general petraeus' record very closely to me is very ironic. i think general petraeus has gotten a pass by most of the media outlets. they've glorified him in a way that was well beyond what was really deserved, and i think if we go back and look at his record from what he actually did in iraq in terms of setting up this disastrous iraqi training program to the plan he pushed in afghanistan, which afghanistan now is worse than it was before the petraeus plan, to transforming the cia into essentially a paramilitary organization, and to the latest intelligence failure in benghazi where we find out that essentially it was a cia operation going on there, the idea that -- the fact he was sleeping with somebody else besides his wife, that that's the thing that's going to bring him down to me is very bizarre. >> that's a fairly harsh assessment of a man who is regarded by many people in the military as an outstanding four-star general. >> well, i mean, i think that -- he might be an outstanding four-star general and everything i said also might be true. what i have tried to do in my reporting on him is give a counter narrative to the man known as king david. he's extremely ambitious. one of the most memorable quotes that another general told me about general petraeus was he leaves the dead dog on your doorstep every time. that means every new assignment he would take over, he would try to make the guy before him look like it was their fault. i think that -- >> michael -- >> as i said, i think he's been giving a past. >> michael hastings, i'm afraid we've run out of time but thank you so much. and we'll be right back. a winter wonderland doesn't just happen. it takes some doing. some coordinating. and a trip to the one place with the new ideas that help us pull it all together. from the things that hang and shine... ...to the things that sparkle and jingle. all while saving the things that go in our wallet. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. right now, get an assortment of martha stewart living ornamen,s free when you purchase select artificial trees. now's a good time to think about your options. are you looking for a plan that really meets your needs? 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about this. i called david petraeus. >> and questions remain about why the president and white house were not notified until late last week, months after this all began and days after petraeus and broadwell were questioned in the case. >> once the fbi realized it was investigating the director of the cia or the cia director had come within its focus or its scope, i believe at that time they had an absolute obligation to tell the president. not to protect david petraeus but to protect the president. >> for the latest on the fallout, let's check in with pete williams. he's been following this for us. pete, let's talk about the time line here. this happened right before the benghazi hearings. petraeus is supposed to have testified at those hearings on thursday. critics are questioning, why are we hearing about all of this later rather than sooner? >> what the fbi and the justice department say is that in the middle of this investigation -- and you have to remember, this starts out with an allegation that had nothing to do with david petraeus, it was thought. this was a woman in tampa, a
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, that david petraeus signed off on, the director of cia wrote the assessment, that's what she was doing. there are people in the white house, particularly the president, but a lot of support staff feel as if susan rice has gotten a raw deal on this. that she has been a political punching bag, if you will, over the last month and a half because of the presidential campaign, because of other things. so, this point when mccain and graham did their thing, that's why the president felt he needed to stand up for his u.n. ambassador. there's -- obviously he was giving off an indication he's willing to have a confirmation fight if they want to have one. but there's more to this, chris. there's more to this. this goes back to mccain and obama, they never -- they never had a warm relationship after the 2008 election. mccain, i think, has been tougher on the president than in the reverse. the president has sort of not taken the bait when mccain has hit him and hit him pretty hard. and i think this was an indication the president is ready to sort of fight back when it comes to mccain. this is
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connection of the david petraeus scandal to some of these other issues. i'd love to get your response. hold on? all right. hold on. we'll be right back. >> what has triggered about informing the congress in any event, just talking about congress, does it have an impact on our national security? >> you think this did not rise to that level? doesn't have to take longer. i'm done. [ female announcer ] unlike sprays and dust rags, swiffer 360 dusters extender can clean hard to reach places in less time. swiffer. great clean in less time. or your money back. swiffer. great clean in less time. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insurance protects them. [ thunder crashes ] it doesn't. stop pretending. only flood insurance covers floods. ♪ visit floodsmart.gov/pretend to learn your risk. >>> my exclusive interview with nancy pelosi, her first interview since saying she's staying on as the top democrat in congress is coming right up. hold on. >>> ten years ago yesterday our country for the first time ever put a woman
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following the testimony begin by general david petraeus. the general is now back at home after going before two separate closed hearings. the ex-cia director arrived on capitol hill through a secure location this morning avoid the media staked out at the capitol. he met privately with the house and senate intelligence committees and answered questions about the attack on the consulate in benghazi. senators reacted before the camera just a short time ago. >> we have spent the last two hours-plus with former director petraeus. he laid out his view, which was very much appreciated. he answered a large number of questions. >> as the only individual in a leadership position who has been back on the ground in libya since the incident occurred on september 11th, it was very important to get him in. he did have a little bit different perspective on some things and clarified some of the issues that were still a little cloudy. >> joining me now, nbc news capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. things are a little cloudy was the last reference there. let's follow the testimony. this wasn't
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elements on in some ways of a hollywood movie, once this investigation, whenever david petraeus's name came up, they had an only giggs to tell the president. >> the defense secretary leon panetta telling reporters that congressional intelligence leaders should have been notified and much sooner. >> i believe that there's a responsibility to make sure that the intelligence committees are informed of issues that could affect, you know, the security of those intelligence operations. >> joining me now is constantly unfolding story, we have two nbc correspondents, kristen welker and michael isikoff michael? >> what we learned last night, general allen, the u.s. commander in afghanistan has been implicated in this because of 20,000 to 30,000 documents exchanged with jill kelley. the tampa associatite who triggered this investigation when she complained about those menacing e-mails that she had been getting from an anonymous sourt who turned out to be paula broadwell, the woman who was having the affair with cia director david petraeus. what we were being told that the original e-mails, these
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americans dead. david petraeus who was stejed to day before he resigned as cia director will now testify tomorrow revealing what he learned from his own independent investigation into the ben gaz i didn't remember -- benghazi attack. including john mccain and lundcy graham are calling for a watergate style investigation into the libya raid and the obama administration's response. the men also said they would try to block any attempt to nominate susan rice as the next secretary of state. describing rice as unqualified for the job after she originally characterized the benghazi terror attack as a protest gone wrong. president obama and his first post election news conference yesterday fired back in sharp terms. >> let me say specifically about susan rice, she has done xr exemplary work. she has represented the united states and our interests in the united nations with skill and professionalism and toughness and grace. if senator mccain and senator graham and others want to go after somebody, they should go after me. and i'm happy to have that discussion with them. but for them to g
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, former cia director david petraeus and afghan war commander general john allen. well, the newest headlines in the investigation are creating even more of a tangled web. this morning "the wall street journal" reports general allen, who is now under investigation for e-mails between he and jill kelley of tampa, florida, is telling associates that he received an e-mail traced back to paula broadwell, the petraeus biographer accused of sending harassing e-mails to jill kelley. according to "the journal," allen says the broadwell e-mail was written under the pseudonym kelley patrol. it's describing kelley as a, quote, seductress, and warned the general about becoming entangled in a relationship with the married socialite. "the journal" also reports kelley tried this summer to get the fbi to drop the investigation that began with kelley's complaint of harassing e-mails traced back to broadwell. well, people familiar with the case tell "the journal" that she became worried about personal information being provided to investigators. meanwhile, "the washington post" quotes senior law enfo
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into a parade float. carrying veterans and their families. >>> and former cia director david petraeus faces the fire in the benghazi terror attacks. good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. and the world is holding its breath this morning as tensions in the middle east reach a boiling point after days of fierce fighting between israel and gaza militants. an attempt at a brief cease-fire was unsuccessful this morning as palestinians unleashed a fresh round of air attacks. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu is not backing down. >> in the past 24 hours israel has made it clear that it will not tolerate rocket and missile attacks on its civilians. >> nbc's martin fletcher is live for us in tel aviv with the very latest. martin, what's the latest? >> reporter: lynn, good morning. following up on netanyahu's threat, last night they are stressing they will do anything it takes to stop the palestinians from firing rockets into israel. overnight or last night rather 30,000 reserves were given a potential order to report for duty. overnight 16,000 soldiers were told, reserve soldiers were told
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, of course, led to paula broadwell who led to david petraeus and the relationship that was then uncovered. how did general allen get into this mix? >> your question has the answer in it. basically, jill kelley complained she was getting harassing e-mails. the fbi eventually found who was sending the e-mails, but that caused them to look at both the e-mails that jill kelley was receiving and the ones that paula broadwell was sending. in the midst of looking at the e-mails jill kelley was receiving here are all these messages from general allen. so, you know, they -- the obviously concluded there was no crime in the e-mail exchanges he had with her, but they felt it should be referred to the defense department as a personnel matter, which is the same phrase they used when they told the director of national intelligence, general clapper, about what petraeus was doing. no crime in that what turned out to be an adulterous relationship, but the boss should know. >> the other thing that happened overnight we were watching real time as ten fbi agents arrived in charlotte at the home of
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david petraeus comes days before congressional hearings over the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. we'll get reaction this morning from capitol hill and the very latest reporting on this developing story from our chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell, who broke the story friday afternoon. also the president and republicans get set to negotiate new taxes and spending cuts. is a breakthrough possible? >> i'm open to compromise. i'm open to new ideas. we've debated over and over again. and on tuesday night we found out that the majority of americans agree with my approach. >> mr. president, this is your moment. we're ready to be led. not as democrats or republicans but as americans. now, we want you to lead. >> where does it all go from sneer we'll ask democratic senator from new york chuck schumer and republican senator from oklahoma tom coburn. also we check in with cnbc's jim cramer, hear about the economic stakes should washington fail to avert fiscal disaster by the end of the year. plus, what is the future of the gop after a stinging defeat for romney and
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term? when andrea mitchell got on air today at 2:51 p.m. and announced that general david petraeus was resigning unexpectedly and immediately as head of the cia, that second question in washington, the question of who is going to hold the most important jobs in the obama administration now, who is going to run the country on a day-to-day basis, this thing that everybody knows is due to change dramatically for the second term, at 2:51 today when andrea got on the air on msnbc, that stuff started to change already. when andrea mitchell broke this news about general rhett payous. we're going to speak with richard engle about this in a moment. about what the news of general petraeus means for the winning of that part of the government. we'll be talking with andrea about her scoop today. in order to appreciate how big a deal this is, how surprising it is, how not just consequential but potentially further consequential this thing is that happened today, you should know that before this was a reportable story, before it was clear what had actually happened and that andrea was going to be abl
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questions about general david petraeus' admitted affair, the time line of the fbi investigation and when exactly the president was told about it. meanwhile, the white house says the president still has faith in general john allen. he, of course, is the current u.s. commander in afghanistan who is now under investigation by the pentagon's inspector general for what officials described as potentially inappropriate e-mails with one of the women directly involved in the case. nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell has more on this ever-widening story. >> reporter: the scandal involving two very different women, tampa socialite jill kelley and petraeus biographer paul broadwell ensnared not only petraeus but his successor. john allen who took over from petraeus in afghanistan and is the president's choice to be supreme allied commander of nato forces in europe, a nomination now temporarily on hold. >> sweetheart, thank you for all that you have done for me and for our precious -- >> reporter: the general is married with a sterling record but on a flight to australia mo
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